Who’s Abusing Who?

If you are a parent – or even if you aren’t – do you believe you and only you should determine how best to “train up your child?”

Or – would you prefer to turn your parenting duties over to some kind of mandated government oversight committee? And, by “committee,” I mean a kind of a Federal “Super Nanny” authorized to determine if you as a parent are an “abuser” and are incapable of dispensing pre-approved “time outs?”

Don’t laugh – the above scenario is quite possible –

Especially if those of us who love our freedom remain silent.

Let’s go back a bit…

Independent Fundamental Baptists have really no one to blame but themselves. For years conservative, independent Bible colleges and universities have sent forth pastors with little or no training in how to deal with the more unseemly problems out there in The Real World. Seminaries, such as Bob Jones University, concentrated on fundamentalist doctrine, but ignored the need for pastors to be trained in basic psychology and so-called “secular” counseling methods, opting instead to label psychology as “sinful” and to use the salvation found in Christ as a substitute for listening, learning and leading. As all of us reasonable people know, salvation is the panacea for the ultimate destiny of the soul – but – the mind (or “the flesh”) will still wrestle with actuality.

And, so, we end up with pastors such as the recent example of Dr. Chuck Phelps, who I’m sure knows fundamental Biblical doctrine inside and out, but when faced with a teenaged rape victim, Dr. Phelps tries to counsel her using the Old Testament book of Deuteronomy – and then fails again as a pastor and over-seer by not making sure the crime was reported, investigated and legally adjudicated.

Dr. Phelps is just one example – you also have the current Bob Jones University chancellor, Dr. Bob Jones III, endorsing and recommending a book written by a convicted child abuser. Does Dr. Bob III not realize this gives the appearance of condoning the convicted abuser’s actions? Apparently neither he, nor fellow endorser (and BJU grad), Dr. Ed Nelson, think there’s anything wrong with recommending a book written by a convicted and incarcerated child abuser.

And again with BJU – for years they stood behind pastors (many of them graduates) with questionable child disciplinary practices – Dr. Rand Hummel’s now infamous sermon, for example, advocates the spanking of a 17 year-old girl and that an abuse victim’s first duty is to forgive the abuser. BJU’s Greenville, South Carolina FM radio station, WMUU, once an integral part of the total BJU ministry, still plays Lester Roloff and Hephzibah House – ministries with less than blameless reputations.

This summer many large Independent Fundamental Baptist organizations had the opportunity to express outrage over abuse within their ranks and adopt guidelines on how to prevent, counsel and report abuse – yet at every opportunity they failed to do so, concentrating rather on separating from heretical thinking instead of taking a stand against a growing problem within their ranks.

Why?

“Independent” – it’s the “I” in IFB – it’s what each of these autonomous entities value almost as much as the purity of the fundamental Biblical doctrines – freedom, in other words.

But, independence and freedom are what these churches, ministries and schools stand to lose if they don’t police themselves – if they don’t take firm and noticeable action against the minority in their ranks who blatantly and purposefully abuse those in their charge.

Jocelyn Zichterman advocate IFB abusedRecently, Jocelyn Zichterman, a woman who calls herself “an advocate for abuse victims from within the Independent Fundamental Baptist churches,” appeared on CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360 (“Ungodly Discipline.”) On the program, it was mentioned that Zichterman has a website – Freedom from Abuse dot net (freedomfromabuse.net) – and it was on this site’s home page I discovered and read the “5 goals” that Ms. Zichterman & Co. hope to achieve:

“Since the IFB leaders will not change their philosophy or put proper structures in place to keep abusers accountable within their group, the only place to turn is the government.”

1. Mandated licensure of group homes in every state and more government over-site.

2. Mandated school counselors (unbiased and state licensed) for unaccredited Christian schools (a place where victims can turn if they need to).

 3. Longer statute of limitations for childhood physical abuse.

 4. Mandated accreditation (mandated regional accreditation if not a trade school) of all colleges/universities who want to make the claim that they are giving out professional degrees (in order to call the institution a “college” or “university”).

5. More over-site of homeschooling families.

Apparently, Ms. Zichterman has determined that if after two or three years you don’t get the changes you want, then “throw in the towel” – empower the Federal government and use the force or federal law – or, as she says, “mandates.”

It may be a reflection of her education – or lack of it – I don’t know – but it seems that Jocelyn Zichterman believes the role of government is to interfere with our private and religious lives. For example – “Goals” #2, #4 and especially #5. Goal #1 should be a state and local issue – not a federal one, and #3 could give rise to an increase in false accusations determined to ruin a person’s or a ministry’s reputation based on nothing more than hearsay and hatred.

Jocelyn Zichterman - CNN - Anderson Cooper 360

It amazes me that, in order to corral and catch a very minute number of abusers in one small sect of Christianity, Zichterman is willing to give up an inordinate amount of personal and religious freedom – and seize that freedom from others who have not, and will never, commit any type of abuse.

But – lest you think there’s no answer to the question above, we turn again to the home page of Zichterman’s abuse website:

“I was interviewed two months ago by a man who worked at the Democratic National Committee who is currently working toward producing a documentary on the IFB…If you are a survivor and you have sermons, written materials, articles or just a story to tell please email me and I will get the information into the right hands.” ~ Jocelyn Zichterman, home page, freedomfromabuse.net, Sept. 06, 2011

Suddenly, the willingness to empower Big Government makes much more sense – as do the appearances on ABC and CNN…

Debbie Wasserman Shultz D-FLThe Democratic National Committee – these are the same people who have as their head Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D – FL) who recently (August 24, 2011) headlined a rally in Fort Lauderdale, Florida for Planned Parenthood of South Florida where Planned Parenthood president Cecile Richards praised Wasserman Schultz as a “heroine” – why?

For standing against the abuse of children?

No.

Wasserman Shultz was praised “for her extensive abortion advocacy.”

“I was six years old when Roe v. Wade was handed down.” Wasserman Schultz posted after the rally. “And never in my life have I felt my constitutional rights as a woman were threatened like I do right now.”

Yearly, there are well over a million abortions performed (approx. 1.2) in the United States – all performed legally under Roe v. Wade – the cause célèbre of the Democratic National Committee’s feminist leader.

useful idiots

How can Jocelyn Zichterman, the self-proclaimed “advocate for abuse victims”, willingly cooperate with an organization that advocates the ultimate abuse of the helpless and the innocent? How can Zichterman crusade for tighter restrictions on predominately good and upright Christian families and Christian ministries while supporting the efforts of a DNC documentarian?

Like Jocelyn Zichterman, I absolutely hate the fact that there are so-called Christians out there that think it’s right, proper and acceptable to beat a child (or anyone else) into some kind of “submission.” But these are problems that we Christians (and their associated organizations) should be left free to handle and resolve on our own – without the “help” of Big Government or Federal Mandates – or The Democratic National Committee.

Unlike Zichterman, I am not willing to give up my freedom – my independence – or the independence of others that, perhaps, I don’t totally agree with.

We Christians must have equality in freedom – the freedom to fail as well as succeed.

Eliminating the “right to fail” leads to the abuse of us all.

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After the broadcast of the CNN piece, this may no longer be true.  See blog comments.

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33 Responses to Who’s Abusing Who?

  1. Phil Lehman says:

    Related to last week’s CNN programs WMUU has (quietly) removed the program from Hephzibah House (Ron / Don Williams) from their schedules. Seehttp://www.wmuu.com/listen/programming-guide.html

    Lester Roloff’s program — The Family Altar airs five times each weekday.

  2. Thanks — I will note that in the blog.

  3. Got to stay hidden says:

    She hated having someone in IFB tell her what to do and not do. So she now want to abdicate her freedom to the government instead? The bad news for her is that the government will only do a worse job. In my opinion, she has just tipped over the edge to irrelevance.

  4. dwalker25 says:

    A documentary by someone within the DNC is not the same thing as the government taking action. I don’t see the DNC any more than the Republican Party taking any kind of action. And they can’t! They’re political parties not the executive and legislative branch of government. They’re just PR wizards trying to get your vote.

    Besides, EVERYBODY AND THEIR DOG IS WORKING ON A DOCUMENTARY! Doesn’t mean a thing.

    If churches and organizations don’t police themselves regarding abuse issues, there’s very little alternative left next to government or vigilante action. So, I’m not taking up arms to defend the institutional abusers from their lack of freedom because that somehow will affect ours! I doubt that, very seriously. Kinda like all the PR regarding ‘trickle down’ economics. Sounds good when you say it but doesn’t translate into practical reality.

  5. Teresa says:

    JZ’s plea for information (regarding abusive IFB children’s homes) is bogus. She has been sitting on enough info for an entire television program since the spring and summer of 2010. apparently, she made the personal choice not to place it in the “right hands”.

  6. joy says:

    interesting – good questions. hope you don’t feel further fury from “that group” you know, like after you questioned Camille.

    Good for you!

  7. survivor says:

    She might have left out a couple things……

    “I was interviewed two months ago by a man who worked at the Democratic National Committee who is currently working toward producing a documentary on the IFB…If you are a survivor and you have sermons, written materials, articles or just a story to tell please email me and I will get the information into the right hands ” ~ Jocelyn Zichterman, home page, freedomfromabuse.net, Sept. 06, 2011

    ……under THESE conditions if your situtation attracts media attention: 1. you let me use your facebook account (or let me create one under your name) to communicate with others so I can pretend to be you, 2. you allow me to post public statements under your name that you didn’t write, 3. you not disagree with anything I say, whether it’s public or private, 4. you allow me to be your only spokesperson and contact for any media inquiries and communications from those wanting to give you support or ask you questions.

    …one more…..5. if your situtation results in a court case, I will be allowed to touch your breasts and the breasts of any other female supporters who might show up.

  8. Hugging Myself and Going "eeeeewwwwwwww" says:

    Sounds like you need to see a lawyer about how to break what may be an untenable contract. And if you want your name back, contact Facebook, tell them you are the real you, and demand that the account under your name be taken down.

  9. I’d avoid “the lawyer” part…

  10. Ken Smith says:

    Lots of folks don’t know that there was a huge blow up at Jocelyn’s Facebook page when she started using the death of innocent child who was not IFB to attack IFB’s with. When people protected about her plan, they were viciously maligned by her and her group and banned from the site. They disagreed with lies being told to the national media and thought that the truth was the better course, and of course it would have been. But Jocelyn didn’t have an dead IFB children to use on Anderson’s Cooper’s show, so she just made some up, grabbed a dead Mennonite child’s ID, changed it to an IFB and lied straight-faced on national TV and told Andrson Cooper and Elizabeth Vargas that what that child went through is what all IFB children face daily, being beat to death.

    It was horror inducing to watch a woman so far gone that she’d actually use the death of a child to further her own need for publicity.

    And she thinks she qualified to tell the rest of you how to think and act?

  11. Ken Smith says:

    hope you don’t feel further fury from “that group”

    That group actually called in a false police report to the FBI on an innocent pastor who’s comments they read at Sharper Iron. They also filed a false police report on a lady moderator at Sharper Iron who simply stated that there was ways a 15 years old could avoid being victims. That group (one person in particular called in a report that the lady was abusing her children.)

    They’ve claimed to make false reports on other people who disagree with them, so I reckon we’ll see where this one goes.

  12. Ken – As you may know, I’m not a fan of Sharper Iron and I thought those posted comments by the female mod & the pastor were ignorant and highly inappropriate under the circumstances – and especially in an open forum like Sharper Iron.

    But – the notifying the FBI? Yeah — that’s crazy talk.

    Maybe they got their “I”, “F” & “B” ‘s mixed up…

  13. You make quite the argument Mr. CEO – definitely something to think about. The idea of all, or even a majority, of the IFB churches/schools/organizations coming to an agreement on anything (even something that should be as uniting as this) seems like it will be a long shot. They aren’t called “Fighting Fundies” for no reason! I agree that unless we police ourselves we do have the possibility of the “fringe” element pulling the nulcear trigger by asking the government of all people to take care of the situation. If the government would actually do it I don’t know, we can barely get them to enforce some of the laws that are currently on the books (i.e. illegal immigrants comes to mind first); but it is definitely NOT a slope we should even begin to look at before all other options are explored completely! If nothing else you have at least begun the discussion in the right direction which is more than other’s have done – thanks. :)

  14. …we can barely get them to enforce some of the laws that are currently on the books…

    True — but we all know there are some laws they enjoy enforcing more than others. If there’s a chance they can finally “get” all of those right-wing, conservative, independent, fundamental Christians out there (and by “get”, I mean get control of), you will see those laws enforced with glee and gusto.

  15. Jeri Massi says:

    If she signed a contract, there may be no other way to break it except to have a lawyer find a flaw in it. That would be the least expensive way to avoid being sued by Jocelyn for trying to break free. My guess would be that if Jocelyn produced a contract for this woman to sign, that she didn’t use a lawyer to write it, and so a lawyer could quickly find the flaws in it and let he know it’s not binding. Failing that, if Jocelyn did sue, it would take a lawyer to take her to court and prove the flaws in the contract.

    There are lawyers who help people who are being used and exploited. Voyle Glover took on the Brent Stevens case for years, obviously with nobody paying him, and suffered persecution for trying to get justice for that child. She can check around and see if there are free legal services available to her. One starting point is lawyers.com, which provides a certain level of free advice:
    http://www.lawyers.com/ask_a_lawyer/ask_a_question/index.php

  16. Watchman says:

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences.” ~ C. S. Lewis

  17. Watchman – Great comment. Thanks for posting this CS Lewis quote.

    The CS Lewis quote parallels a 1976 Ronald Reagan quote: “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’”

  18. Ken Smith says:

    Mr. CEO, no sir, I didn’t know you were not a fan of Sharper Iron. I’m not too much myself. Not to generalize, but confessing I am, they do seem to like to talk and talk and go on forever with some kind of feigned politiness instead of just getting right to the point.

    Personally, I didn’t feel that Mrs. Susan’s comments were out of line at all. Anyone in law enforcment would give the same advice about how to avoid sexually exploitive situations. I can’t remember the specifcs of what the pastor said that they called the FBI on, but I do recall when I read them they seemed more “politically incorrect” than anything else. But he wasn’t blaming the victim, his spirit was humble it seemed like.

  19. Ken Smith says:

    BTW, I agree with you about Bob Jones recommending that book. It seemed out of line. But I get the idea that he’s a man who listens to no one and does what he wants.

    I fully believe those Thompson brothers were wrong to do what they did and they deserve jail. But one thing that got me suspicious about the whole thing was seeing a photoshopped copy of the boys back used in a news media outlet.

    I think that’s one thing that bugs me about a lot of this, it seems like the events themselves would be enough to tell about, and receive punishment on. I just don’t get this lying and adding to the stories that some of these folks are want to do.

    If you were raped, why not just say that instead of lying under oath and saying that reporting your rape caused you to lose your job at an IFB college. “See, aren’t all IFB’s bad??”

    If your dad molested you and beat you, why not just report that instead of lying about ALL IFB churches and dead Mennonite children and saying that all IFB children suffer under that kind of treatment daily?

    If a presbyterian committs suicide in the parking lot of a church in Greenville, SC, why lie and claim that BJU is covering it up and controlling the news media, when it’s been reported EVERYWHERE, including Greenville.

    I just don’t get the habit of using people and lying about deaths and tragic events just so someone can be on TV.

  20. PD says:

    Jocelyn Z is hurting so badly that she appears to inflict on others the same pain she has experienced. She wants freedom of expression for herself, but flies off the handle when others disagree with her. She needs a lot of healing before she can rationally lead a movement.

    However, the IFB movement will not self-correct themselves. They almost never listen to another pastor when he points out a concern. Sharing a concern is the quickest way out of the movement. You will be called bitter as well.

    So absent the self-policing that is necessary, the internet has filled that gap well. Christians who would be silenced in the past are now able to reveal the truth and gain traction against the unrepentant obstinance of fundamentalist leaders. It is working. BJU would never have apologized for its interracial dating and marriage policy if not forced to do so by internet alumni. Likewise, the removal of Williams from the WMUU lineup.

    There are some things that the government does need to fix, however. Unregulated religious reform homes are just private businesses run by unqualified men like Ron Williams and the deceased Lester Roloff. Regulating these homes would be a good thing and the government should do it.

    Now can someone get JZ the help that she needs?

  21. “Regulating these homes would be a good thing and the government should do it.”

    Right – because the government is soooooooooo good at running things — you know, like the post office, social security, immigration, health care — I could go on….

  22. Jeri Massi says:

    Children being beaten bloody, forced to eat their own vomit, and forced to perform slave labor while the founder of the home collects their wages are all criminal offenses against the residents that the IFB keeps ably dodging. The government could not do WORSE than Hephzibah House or New Bethany. I’m not keen on government intervention, but the reality is that these children are funneled into a system where the parents consider it a religious right to abdicate their responsibility and allow a monster like Ron Williams or Mack Ford to criminally abuse their children.

    If churches had behaved responsibly it wouldn’t be down to this, But while Jocelyn’s theories are far fetched, it is likely that the government will have to intervene for the protection of the rights of children. And the idea that the government would do worse than the IFB is entirely unproven. We’ve got a lost generation of young adults out there, thanks to the IFB. They have suffered atrocities, both violent and sexual.

    The idea that the internet or that CNN or 20/20 had to rescue these people from Christianity is revolting and a rebuke. If we do not police ourselves, we deserve to lose our freedoms. These atrocities have been going on since the 1970′s. And this isn’t a negotiable thing with God. If Christendom continues to abuse its weakest and most vulnerable members, God will chasten His Church and humble it until it is willing to meekly be subject to His rule of justice and mercy to others. We ought to fear Him and humbly institute reforms to protect the innocent and vulnerable.

  23. Ken Smith says:

    If I’m not mistaken Ron WIlliams has an earned doctorate.

  24. Jeri Massi says:

    Maybe he’ll wear a mortarboard in Hell.

  25. If we do not police ourselves, we deserve to lose our freedoms.

    Jeri – That will happen to our shame.

    But – and it’s a big “but” – I am repulsed by government intervention. We already have child abuse laws – enforce them – government does not need more power – it has it already.

  26. Simone says:

    First and foremost, I would like to tell ALL of you that Jocelyn Z has NO experience in ANY IFB childrens home. She has degraded survivors, attacking them if they do not agree to ‘her’ conditions, and has pretty much shown ALL of us her true colors…

    Jocelyn Z has not only slammed survivors of IFB childrens homes, she has slammed innocent survivors of ALL forms of survival. She knows nothing about any of us. She is seeking her next *poster child*. She is all about everything being about ‘her’. Period. If all of you cant see it? Then maybe some serious eye opening needs to occur…

    Jocelyn Z, seemed to be devoted to New Bethany survivors. They all trusted her. They never knew that the trust they had for her would be smashed.

    Jocelyn Z seemed to be devoted to the Hepzibah House survivors. She took it uopn herself to not only attack a survivor, but to degrade her so badly, that now this girl is terrified of her.

    Jocelyn Z seemed to be devoted to the Bethesda survivors. But once ONE of them challenged her, she took it upon herself to call her in the middle of the night, and scream and yell, only because this survivor had not answered her call previously during theday.

    Jocelyn Z seemed to be wanting to get such deep and personal information from a survivor, (for a Youtube video) that when this survivor declined, she sent her messages telling her how dissapointed she was in her for not allowing the interview to happen.

    I could go on and on as to the damage that Jocelyn Z has done……

    For instance this comment, made on a survivors group….

    Via FB:https://www.facebook.com/Hephzibah.House.Winona.Lake.Indiana?sk=wall#!/groups/159832624079021/
    Jocelyn Zichterman A picture says a THOUSAND words. These are not pictures of “rebellious teens.” I can show you pictures of rebellious teens and they would cut themselves and commit suicide before they’d subject themselves to wearing these clothes. No, you have to be brainwashed PRIOR to coming to a place like this — to endure it as long as the HH girls all did. So sad.

    I was in a ‘Girls home’, I was not conditioned. I wore the clothes trhat they told me to, because I had NO choice.

    She has NO idea, how it was at any ‘girls home’. Why? Because she was NEVER in one!

    This is what Jocelyn Is trying to pull on survivors now (big suprise):

    Jocelyn Zichterman..Via FBhttps://www.facebook.com/Hephzibah.House.Winona.Lake.Indiana?sk=wall#!/groups/159832624079021/
    Just a quick note, that may be important to those of you in contact with media/journalists/magazines/radio stations, etc.: But a survivor just had a “live and learn” experience and I want to share it so that others don’t get in the same situation:

    Via FB:https://www.facebook.com/Hephzibah.House.Winona.Lake.Indiana?sk=wall#!/groups/159832624079021/
    Jocelyn Zichterman But PLEASE do not sign any “exclusivity” contracts without running it by a lawyer first or passing it my way, so I can send it on to some of the executives/producers who know what to look for in a contract–if someone says they want your story.

    Via FB:https://www.facebook.com/Hephzibah.House.Winona.Lake.Indiana?sk=wall#!/groups/159832624079021/
    If you happen to get paid for an interview and there are no “term limits” in the contract, you could be bound indefinitely to a certain media outlet — until they run your story. And if they drag their feet and others want to run your story? Well…you’re stuck.

    Are you kidding me?!?!

    Jocelyn Zichterman has NO right saying any of this to any survivor! She ‘claims’ to be a ‘victim’. But do any of you know for sure that what she is saying is true? Do ANY of you really know her?

    I know that what she has pulled, on innocent survivors is WAY beyond abuse. She can continue on her tirade of “I am the queen of media”, But, I would just like everyone to ask themselves, “Do I really know her, or am I just accepting her, because I am to afraid to confront her? JZ *IS* toxic, I have proof……She has *LIES*……….LOTS of them!

    So–just a heads up.

  27. Wright-Over-Yonder says:

    @PD – “Unregulated religious reform homes are just private businesses run by unqualified men like Ron Williams and the deceased Lester Roloff. Regulating these homes would be a good thing and the government should do it.”

    Please before you push this agenda, learn how well it does not work in states that regulate and make money to keep these hell holes in business. Become aware that states such as Texas, that license, regulate, and financially support group homes, and are nothing more than another layer of government to butt heads with when a child is seriously injured or killed in Texas State Foster care. Unregulated religious, nonprofit, for profit, for grins group homes for children taken from their homes under the auspices of protecting them, are private businesses, run by unqualified people, who will not pay to train their staff, will not follow the laws, have more due process rights than the children they keep, and will not pay a decent wage.

    http://www.hope4kidz.org/research/rtcGrant.html

    I do not know the answer other than shut these hell holes down and replace them with parenting classes and literal services (like Job training) that actually help change behaviors of parents and children. The state and fed. gov provide financial support to the group homes. The state needs group homes into which they place the overflow of foster children (TX Legislatures determined Child Protective Services could not have children sleeping in the CPS offices). Parents also choose to place their children in these hellholes because they look so awesome in the brochure and web site.

    http://www.hope4kidz.org/research/rtcWatch.html

    Children’s Rights filed a lawsuit against Texas and Gov. Perry. Thus far, we have not known a single child to be helped by filing the lawsuit http://www.hope4kidz.org/research/texas.html

    Residential Child Care Licensing (RCCL), now known as Child Care Licensing (CCL) have told me repeatedly that they do not have the financial and legal ability to enforce Minimum Standards of Care in group homes.

    http://h4k.blogspot.com/p/stop-abuse-of-children-in-foster-care.html

    http://h4k.blogspot.com/2010/06/jamies-house-charter-school-unlicensed.html
    Five children dead at DayStar before the state of Texas shut Daystar down.
    Odd note: Daystar’s owner, Clay Dean Hill, has another facility on the same property in Manvel Texas, and Shiloh was not shut down. Same people work and manage both places.

    As the Dallas Morning News reported:
    “Many children come to the Daystar Residential Treatment Center from backgrounds of beatings and hunger. Others suffer from afflictions that trap their minds in dark and violent corners. Some can’t talk, some can’t walk and some can’t clean themselves.

    But the 100 or so Daystar residents are exceptionally good at one thing. They make a lot of money for a man named Clay Dean Hill” (Osborne, Swanson, n.d.).
    Ref: Osborne, J., Swanson, D. (n.d.). http://www.hope4kidz.org/news/dayStar.html

    More mandates by the government equate to more unenforceable mandates by the government.

    http://www.hope4kidz.org/news/restraint.html – The laws were changed and practices remain the same. Nov. 2010 Michael Owens, age 16, restrained to death in a closet at Daystar. Staff demanded Michael hand over what he was holding in his hand. Michael did not comply and was literally killed over the cap to a pen!

    What is a better solution?

    Disclaimer:
    I am not accepting full responsibility for shutting these places down; however, our organization has been used by the media and we welcome anyone who wants anything on our web site. Take it! Please! Use it. If you put a link back to where you obtained the data, that is simply icing on the cake. We have children in dire situations and the state of Texas will not help these children.

  28. PD says:

    So what is the answer? You stated that you don’t have one. Thanks for being honest.

    As a parent, if someone reports abuse of one of my children, social services shows up!

    There does not seem to be a mechanism in place for children of these reform homes to call social services, and if they did, it seems that the state thinks that they can’t investigate. You are right about government regulations – perhaps it won’t help. But unregulated homes are not helping either.

  29. Teresa says:

    Exactly, PD. These places need to be CLOSED. Period. Don’t think for one second that alot of our elected officials haven’t been contacted publicly and privately over these unregulated, unlicensed, and primarily CHURCH SUPPORTED institutions. Last year, journalist Andy Kopsa took some personal letters from several survivors to Washington, DC and hand delivered them to the proper officials at the Senate HELP Commitee regarding getting HR911 to the floor for vote!

    http://akopsa.wordpress.com/tag/senate-help-committee/

    Nobody has been sitting idly by. Unless/Until the officials WE elect step up and do something, cutting off the funds to these places by increasing awareness and putting pressure on the supporting churches to immediately CEASE sending their congregants hard-earned tithes to these “christian kid/teen prisons” seems like a fine idea…….

  30. Snakemolerat says:

    Coincidentally, the SAME DAY it is announced that AC360 is going to do a segment on an abusive Christian school and church, Ken Smith’s blog “Nothing Personal” is suddenly inaccessible. did you get hacked or reported again, Ken? This has happened to you before hasn’t it? When the heat you turned up in the kitchen got a little hot for some people?

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